We sell stone, fabricate and install countertops so we're there every step of the way which keeps me up to date on pretty much every stone that is used today. WebBona sealer to avoid uneven tannin pull due to using a water based poly, (especially on white oak), no stain, then Bona Traffic HD. I will ask him about Poloplaz Pearl and Pallman products as well.Would you suggest a satin or matte finish? @Lisa Pearen it would help with identification if you post photos. If those were red oak, they did a very good job toning down the red. But maybe it is just old and scratched over the years? Heres a photo of our family room. I also have some design software that may help with your need. This helps our clients make up their minds before doing the whole floor. But that's just a quick guess. The other two will give you more color. If you like the look of your raw white oak floors then NaturalSeal is your best bet. @skru33 Thanks! @Lisa Pearen it would help with identification if you post photos. Don't disagree with you at all. I have lived in my new house for 15 months and I love the look of my floors - they are easy to decorate with and give the home a warm but "cool" look at the same time. Disregard the walls (we are installing a new kitchen). They have little to no chemical resistance. Good luck on your project!! If you wanted a specific COLOUR range (but didn't say anything about the look of raw wood) then the finisher brought what s/he sees people RIGHT NOW wanting (because it is trendy). I've read mixed reviews of the Loba one last thing, Is your parquet the kind with slats/"fingers"? If neither does anything to your floor, the floor coating is at least in reasonable shape. If you read the question carefully, you would understand I answered that the last coat of finish was applied Saturday. MaryJane, My white oak floors have 1 coat of Bona Natural Seal and 2 coats of Bona. It is my impression that this as raw wood had less variation in color from one board to another and less pronounced grain and was a bit lighter than the American white oak or the other European white oak I saw. Then go with water based and be done with it. In this angle Nordic is on the right and Natural is on the left. Here are some of my samples. Yeah, thats what I am realizing. Mega One is a clear non-yellowing finish. wipe down a 1ft x 1ft section with a lightly water damp cloth to see what I mean). I can reject non-essential cookies by clicking Manage Preferences. Your wood may take the coats differently than our wood. For a house your size and a $50k budget. The cost of the floors is such a big expenditure that I didnt even ask the installer if or how much he was charging me for the samples I chalked it up to the overall cost of the floors. Dry finish. It's hard to tell how deep those scratches are. The installer did a great job with the install, he fell down with the stain and finish. Held off on final coat until project finished.. which will be done in a few days. Dont know if you can see much in this photo the brown paper is torn away under the island and an area of the floor shows there. Forget prefinished. We ordered select boards but there were a lot of character boards in the delivery. And rubio makes a treatment for acid stains. Thank you. Apply the second coat. If you are someone who loves the look of the 'raw floor' but you HATE the hazy look of NaturalSeal, then I HIGHLY recommend going with the satin. Just stick with Bona Traffic HD in a satin and you will be fine. Getting gloomy from cool gray? These are the LVP samples and my unfinished white oak stair parts. Each to their own. It is 3/4 x 5 solid white oak hardwood. Thats a problem Im left with and he wrote that message to me, not the hardwood installer. We got our hardwood lumber from a lumber mill in Berryville, VA. Otherwise time will turn the white oak yellow regardless of how it looks when freshly finished. And it is taking me some time to get used to a matte floor. Trying to make this choice right now(within the next two hours- yikes! I do love the natural color. Cochrans offers this wood in different thicknesses and grades which also impacts the price. When I see Nordic in photos it looks beautiful, but I dont think I want a white wash. Gravity works. I am sorry , Thank you!! G & S isn't bashing you, they are bashing the 'dudes' in the industry. Can you add some white to the Renner System? Share pics of white oak hardwood floors stained with Bona (1st home!). Cant decide! I hope some of this information is helpful. Heres a photo of our 7 Norwegian white oak before sanding or any sealer. En cliquant sur Accepter , j'accepte l'utilisation des cookies telle qu'elle est dcrite plus en dtail dans la Politique d'Utilisation des Cookies de Houzz. I can see the installer has the ABILITY to do make this finish workhe just ran out of time and money because of his bid (which was too low for full glue). I could not get dog drool, LOLwe also scratched it and our current floors (factory oil urethane) with tips of a scissor to compare. I am attempting to coordinate real white oak with white oak LVPthe unfinished white oak is an amazing match to the Paradigm Conquest Windsor and Towerwanting to basically stain/seal the posts and rails in a way that changes the natural state the least, neutralizing any weed tones. I did look at photo posts to get an idea of what product/color I was looking for as I wanted something a little more custom and different. @mtpo - When will your floors be finished? Is there another more affordable option I can try? Thanks for taking the time to write all that! By the way, did you use any fillers to fill the knots and gaps between the planks? If not, you can at least trivially test the floor: First. Look out for inexperience. WebBona Natural Seal stain on white oak hardwood floor and 3 coats Bona Traffic HD Matte on top. Not always as expected. I didnt know what I wanted for finish when I contracted the job and their quote was for a cheaper finish. I lost confidence in my floor guy - I think he wasn't wiping the stain off but letting it dry on resulting in washed paint look. If you do NOT want ORANGEthen stay away from "oil" based finishes or "oil modified". That makes SOOOO much sense. The real way this is tested is actually even meaner to the floor - normally you take a box cutter, cross-hatch the floor (IE cut it in a grid pattern), and then put the tape on it and rip it up. I didnt want to pull up the protective paper but you can see the floor a little better in this photo. Was afraid it would look a bit cartoonish or out of place. Quartzite is a metamorphic stone.. Sandstone converts to Quartzite from extreme heat and pressure. How are things holding up a ~year later? It looks like you have SOLID 5" (that ranks as wide plank = glue assist) White Oak. Not sure if this is helpful but attached are picks of recently completed white oak with Bona natural seal followed by Bona traffic HD extra matte finish. WebBona ClassicSeal Floor sealer highlighting the wood's natural color Size: 1 gal Find a distributor Information Documents Key benefits Minimizes tannin bleed, especially on white oak Exceptionally clear, highlighting true color of wood VOC Compliant Seals the wood, preventing the finish from penetrating Information white/grey countertops with light wood floor & stainless appliances? Was a bit of a risky choice, went with a pretty unusual/bold extra wide 5" wide pattern and I think it turned out well. The floors are super dusty in this photo as the soffits were just removed. Yes, thsts bleached and toned oak with a matte finish. Let's see how long this finish last. They did a great job. STAIN OR LEAVE NATURAL??? You want someone fully trained in the art of the 2-component (2K) water based system. Site finish your floors with Rubio monocoat and get exactly what you want. I like the stains that are made by the same company that makes the finish. @renee, can you post photos of the completed project? It is not the homeowner's fault that the job was bid too low (but they did accept the bid)but it is now the homeowner's experience (part of the decision process of taking the low bid) to live through a full sand and refinish of a brand new floor. We have only had our cabinets for about a month so I cant speak to long term durability yet but they turned out gorgeous. Our floors were recently finished I havent seen them yet. If, youre looking for a small amount. I will report back once I have the application on a sample board. There are MANY people who do NOT know they are 'clean-shiny' people until they purchase matte floors. Its really helpful to see the product on YOUR wood. Use two coats of natural seal and two coats of naturale. My stomach-- which had been in a knot for a year due to indecision relaxed. HELP!!! San and finish guys come in next. 1 coat of nordic seal will subtly lighten the color of white oak, while 2 coats of nordic seal will make it significantly lighter. Give it a light sanding after it dries with 220 or 240 grit sandpaper. Our hardwood installer and contractor use DuraSeal products often and Bona Mega. The 3 coats of finish (the expensive HD stuff) is the Gold Standardbut 2 coats + sealant is still very good. Our hardwood installer actually did one coat sealant last Friday, then a coat of finish later in the day, then Saturday did another coat of finish. I answered them in order. Doing a light stain like this is not easyand it takes time. I had no idea that white oak looks different when grown in one geographical area versus another. professional finishes are sold in gallons only. If it does nothing: Take a piece of masking tape (not painters tape). I have my fingers crossed that I wont see white stripes when all the protective paper is pulled up. My question to tcrp6566 is did you use a sealer first? Also hope this helps .. colors hard to see on monitor, I tested classic seal, white stain and Nordic seal as well. Its not a guarantee that the floors wont get damaged, but perhaps the extra coat will buy me a little more time to clean up a wet spot. That means a single guy can take his time. NordicSealis an easy to use water-based sealer from Bonawhich you can use it to achieve this popular whitewashed look. Rift white oak lowers and white uppers. Thanks. It could be as low as $2/sf. The training may be 'free' but the cost to fly there, rent hotel room + food for 3 days (and lose 3 days worth of income) and fly back take money. I would have loved to find a simpler, cheaper, regular old stain, but they just don't give me the same look I'm trying to achieve. When he did the sample with a white stain (Duraseal) and my red oak floor turned pink, I stopped the work and started searching for a new guy. I hope these help someone! The reason: they turn orange. I would appreciate your advice on how to avoid the haze and advice on the Nordic product. Curtains will block the bookcase. Yes they can be 'walked on' after 3 daysbut moving furniture in is not ideal until 5 days have passed. Two things to do: First, drag your fingernail across it, see what happens. I havent figured out if Im going to use any window coverings yet. (followed by Traffic HD). Carly, please provide source for your floors, exactly what Im looking for. Bona Traffic finishes questions for people that have used it. Ill post more pictures when I get back to the house. And you want to have 3 coats total. @Bongo. The edge is not as nicely finished as the Corian. Came out a little lighter, but it all depends on your preference. William Smith, D.D., was Are You Gutsy Enough to Paint Your Floor White? The chemical composition of natural stones will affect their performance in your home so it's important you have this information. I would use Bona natural seal or classic with traffic hd extra matte. Thanks! (Side shower walls are white). I disagree that it was not an attack on me as G & Ss follow up comment said, oh yeah, hidden message. It offers a bigger margin of profit. Imagine if that would have been quartz? These will give you the raw look, which prints tend to show up on. We went with the Bona Nordic and Traffic HD. (Just read the dog drool threads.) Windows for a 1920's Spanish style home in SoCali. The builder had choices for us, this or that type of choice. We wanted to end up with a floor that looked as close to our raw wood as possible but had lots of protection. If you look for darker colors, you will see fewer color shades in the wood planks. It won't tell you what caused the scratching (glass particles in sand is the usual culprit. My cabinets are custom sizes and I was going to go with Barker cabinets (had my order all ready to send), but someone here on houzz recommended I check out this local guy first, and I am so glad I did! I am posting some final outcome pictures in different rooms and lighting. So far, this seems to be going well. Directly before me was one of the mirrors I have mentioned, in which I saw reflected the tall shape of my friend, Mr. Jennings, leaning over my shoulder, and reading the page at which I was Taj Mahal is an example of a crystalline Quartzite. There was a warning on the front door telling everyone to stay out. We planned to wait 6 days to move in and will use felts and place furniture down gently. Just wondering if 2 coats of the Traffic HD is enough or should I add a 3rd coat of the finish even in rooms that arent used as heavily? I have some anxiety he didn't apply the poly in the correct thickness. My kitchen is the opposite of yours with white cabinets and gray countertops and I like the way my natural white oak floors warm it up. Nordic seal has white pigments. You have NOT hired installer yet! Would love to see pics of the InteseSeal, as we are considering the same. Bona Intense Seal Bona Classic Seal Bona Neutral Seal DuraSeal Weathered Oak Stain DuraSeal Silvered Gray Stain Bona Drifast Stain The Finish We Chose You may not be aware of the fact that white oak floors do not need to be stained. I have about 735 sf. Here is a link of various lighting for At Ease (it's not shiny at all). I know one of the Milesi products in the natural effects side does contain a UV filter. The reactive simply pulls the tannins. If, you want a raw pale look. Compare that to the 2 MINUTES you have with Bona! If, Bona Mega is your budget. Will Bona Mega keep the wood color natural and avoid yellowing over time? Find out how to keep them that way, Tired of tan? My installer has Amber i think yhat will be too dark. white oak hardwood flooring. Ha. I did a lot of research and planned to try Bona NaturalSeal, Bona ClassicSeal and Bona NordicSeal on this round of samples. For someone to get this done 'properly' takes training. WebBona NordicSeal is a waterborne sanding sealer that is formulated to provide a green alternative to a whitewashed floor without the use of caustic materials such as bleach. Ours is from Norway. WebBona NaturalSeal is designed to be the foundation or first coat of a three-coat water-based system, so dont just use it for all your layers, thinking you are being clever and saving money. They held up to move in with no major scratches. @Abigail Barber Burgum you can just go to their website to find the nearest dealer to you.