For years, Justin has quietly used his fame and financial wherewithal to help many. The best distance comparison we have for those clubs is therefore the carry distance. I still feel these are better players clubs for 15 handicappers or below as they are bladed heads which require you to deliver the club consistently and strike the centre of the face. I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. get up and down 3 out of the 5 times you miss the green makes all the difference. For example for a 170 yard shot into the green a quick glance at his iron yardages shows he could decide to play either a three-quarter 8-iron or try to hit a 9-iron as far as he can his max distance for that club. I wonder what his user name is on WRX.. :-). I wouldn't take a trackman stat to the bank. That's what I think. [/quote] Justin Thomas A single figure golfer all of his adult life he lives in London and still enjoys playing whenever he can with friends and family. I have shot level round the chammpionship course on occasion also though. Mike Austins Secret Release Move to Multiply Your Clubhead Speed. I've seen plenty of tour pros hit balls & played with many good golfers. Clear editor. Top 100 Player Analysis. Full details on the new TSR2 and TSR3 here! When you take the wedge out of the bag you notice the fuller toe, and there is more material behind the head. Don't doubt the ability of some people to produce similar numbers to the pros. Despite the slight changes SM9 still looks very much like a Vokey should and thats what I like about these heads. [/quote] Thanks! I spent a year playing by myself getting lessons finding a swing and just focused on having fun. You've given me a good laugh for two days now. Exactly, I had the same perception in mind too. pleased to hear you are enjoying it now though. I cant say I noticed the lower ball flight but this is something that Titleist have worked on gradually for the last few generations. Short hitter compared to the average WRXer I feel like Seve in the sand these days which is never a bad thing. I think it would be awesome to see if any of the numbers change due to the new developments. I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. Id estimate the average tour player will hit their basic solid drive between 295-310 under neutral conditions. In the lower lofted wedges (46-52) at address the club sits squarer, the leading edge looks to be straighter and less rounded at the top of the toe. Not at all. Anyone remember young Guan the 14 year old at Augusta he was so small he could only drive it 250 but did alright. [quote name='baseballfrk8998' timestamp='1364408786' post='6708081'] While golf has given Justin a career he thoroughly enjoys, he knows the life lessons golf can provide. The flight is reduced and the spin still remains. On average PGA Tour pros hit a 3-wood a carry distance of 249 yards. Especially when they was no other golfers in sight. The handicap system is equally misleading as the vast amount of amateur golfers dont have a handicap, and if they did, they would be 36.4. Lets go one step further and use the TrackMan Combine data to see what kind of proximity to hole the AMA will be able to achieve at the various approach distances. It has to do with my ability. Graeme started playing golf when he was only 4 years old and has loved the game ever since. 100% of all funds raised with be used to make a constructive and quality impact for a deserving child, family or charity. it would be great to see this information on a broadcast on a couple of hole locations - combined with protracer. Srixon WG-706 56 w/ Nippon Modus Prototype C10 S I would say probably is bs. Dear Claeys, We highly recommend you to visit a TrackMan coach or fitter close to you, as there are many individual aspects to your question. Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW Blue 75 TX, Hybrid: Titleist TSi2 (21 degrees) On average pros drive the ball a total of 296.6 yards (yds) according to official PGA Shotlink data. Distance to Apex 195.9 By I need to know few things before buying. Callaway XR Pro (20) Diamana White 90X Smash Factor 1.475 Short hitter compared to the average WRXer However, the vast majority of the time I spend with my students that would fall into the AMA category is spent on working out the kinks in their swing (to help them hit straighter shots more consistently) and helping them with better contact with the golf ball. I am a 35 year old AMA at a 15. WebJustin Thomas TrackMan Numbers Congratulations to Justin Thomas with his latest victory at the Dell Technologies Championship, well played! [/quote] I don't measure my driver distance. Golf critics talk about technology making golf courses obsolete because of distance, but what they fail to clarify is that this only pertains to 0.1% of the golfing population. Mizumo T22 Blue 54 58 S400 TI What I find funny is the number of people on here that think it's ridiculous that an amateur golfer claims to have similar numbers to a professional. Am I as good as tour pro? [quote name='GooseHook' timestamp='1364385234' post='6705065'] RJ, What was the actual value of swing speed group 115 mph+, since it shows 0%. Justin Thomas is one of the most exciting and popular golfers on the PGA TOUR. TrackMan Tee and Approach Shots! Trackman stats obviously don't mean that much either. When it comes to talking about distance in golf the easiest and most obvious place to start is of course always with the longest club in the golf bag the driver. What I find funny is the number of people on here that think it's ridiculous that an amateur golfer claims to have similar numbers to a professional. Our TrackMan Combine database would contain the answer to those questions, but it would require significant work to pull that information out. I prefer 120-160 yards, so I try my best to play to that yardage on par 4's. In other words the distance from where they hit the ball to the point of impact on the ground. I hit the same. Mizuno Pro 225 5-GW PX IO #:>PC"ljTTZ!@8[+D py"4]F: }X@`*0gIiF1|fv3cp{c?9EkD!j> do Trackman numbers mean? Understanding golf launch monitor results This data further confirms the need for most golfers to aim towards the center of the green on all approach shots. 52* & 58* Callaway MD2 // S-300 Heat treatment This treatment is now applied to the impact areas of the face to increase durability. The average for those golfers was 117 mph. Can trackman info like the dispersion plot data be projected over a course layout? People that take hole distance & distance on approach to calculate driving distance is what's funny. xV#+D7xEouj|_\ctk--[ne5a|N}x^. A Step by Step Guide, Acceleration Graph of Hips, Chest, Arms, and Clubhead in a Pro Golf Swing. How Often Do Pros Hit Driver? I figured that out years ago based on hole distance and yardage to the flag after my tee shot. The following graph shows a plot of the AMAs shots from 160 yards. He has an average attack angle of -1.6 degrees. [/quote] Progressive Centre of Gravity - Maintaining the lower CG in the stronger lofts, while raising CG even further in the more lofted clubs. Thanks for the post. How to gain more distance without swinging faster? The new Vokey SM9 wedges has a focus on this exact shot by placing weight higher in the toe. You can use our TrackMan Locatortofind your local TrackMan certified and ask for a combine test. Web27K views, 94 likes, 1 loves, 33 comments, 13 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from TrackMan: Congratulations to Justin Thomas, winning the CJ Cup! It makes the head look a little rounder, but Vokey has done a great job of disguising this weight distribution at address. I genuinely believe Vokeys make me a better bunker player, the SM8s changed my bunker game and these are just as good. Obviously not. My question is my average D is +5.3, 6I is +3.5 and 8I is +2.1. Or when hazards are present, it may be even wiser to aim for the opposite edge of the green. As the previous poster said Im 43 so wont be Bubba Watson anytime soon. I already use the SM8s and having seen the drop off in spin and different performance of my swing (I am less steep at impact these days) I will be changing wedges. Even when playing from the green tees at Torrey Pine South, the AMA is left with 165 yards for his approach shot. Club Head Speed 119.55 They were consistently breaking 80 if not the mid 70s and almost every time hit their drives relatively straight and 275 to over 300 yards without a problem and doing it from the blue or blacks . Ha, okay. TrackMan - Did you see Justin Thomas' TrackMan numbers? . What is fascinating also though as you dig more into the figures is the distance control options the best players in the world have with almost every club in their bag! At just 29-years old, he can lay claim to 2 Major victories, a FedEx Cup Championship, PLAYERS Championship and a PGA TOUR Player of the Year Award. Probably because he plays a higher spin ball than most. People like you that rant about longer amateurs is what makes for good laughs. Top 100 PGA Tour Player Analysis, What Clubs Do LPGA players use? I am guarded from the bladed strike when hitting the lob shot which then builds a trust and compliment to my short game. I take most info in many sections of this board with a grain of salt. Theyre familiar and consistent, you wont see Bob Vokey ever designing a wedge with a high toe or full face of grooves. Once again Vokey customise their wedges even in the grooves. [quote name='markheardjr' timestamp='1364403013' post='6707345'] See how The Honda Classic Justin - Michael Cooney Golf Im wondering if there are outliers here?. I would say probably is bs. Should my ball speed be faster based on the distance Im getting. I, and many amateur golfers I play with on a regular basis, have the ability to hit the ball a long way. [b]Tiger Woods[/b] Spin- 2645, 1948 low, 3745 high What I find funny is the number of people on here that think it's ridiculous that an amateur golfer claims to have similar numbers to a professional. Thomas is also only 1 of 6 players in PGA Tour history with 15 victories and 2 Majors before his 30th birthday, joining Jack Nicklaus, Johnny Miller, Tom Watson, Rory McIlroy and Tiger Woods. 6 Iron Trackman Data - What am I missing? Too delofted? Spin: 3811. There is CG shift between lofts and there is a progressive hosel length in the wedges to balance out weight distribution. Justins interest in the military was inspired by some of the men and women in uniform he has met over the years. So much so that if I'm 220 out, a distance I can reach with a perfect 5 wood, ill hit to 50, pitch, putt, par and drive you insane. Most golfers I know are happy to drive the ball 200 yards and keep it in the fairway. [quote name='jeffrey08250' timestamp='1364360280' post='6704435'] I almost just quit playing golf because when I started 4 years ago I was playing golf with two people most of the time that were in the 1% of AMAs . This informative information was more helpful for golfers. If I slow it down some and shoot for 280-290, I hit more fairways. Skill Triumphs Over All! They think that a drives are always over 320, which they are not not even close. x]I]618nI9^R? People that take hole distance & distance on approach to calculate driving distance is what's funny. [/color] The longest player hits it 320 yards on average and the longest recorded drive in 2022 is 460 yards. Lol, so true.. In my opinion if your long game level is around hcap 0 you should score 76-80 . It is not to suggest that a golfer should simply play a shorter course to shoot better scores, but that a golfer should play a course length that is appropriate. There are three finishes available in SM9: Tour Chrome (matte), Brushed Steel (shiny) and Jet Black (matte). Driver: GolfWRX is on the ground in Orlando ahead of the 2023 Arnold Palmer Invitational at Bay Hill Club & Lodge. Hes learned nothing Olympic legend launches scathing attack on Tiger Woods over tampon apology, Golf fans left bemused following bizarre Jim Nantz blunder, Best driver 2023: Expert club fitters recommend the best driver for your swing speed, An UP-CLOSE look at Tiger Woods famous Scotty Cameron putter, David Feherty ridiculed for Greg Norman comment during LIV broadcast, Tour pro says LIV would be done if Brooks Koepka returned to PGA Tour, TOUR REPORT: McIlroy switches drivers during Genesis Invitational (plus Tigers iron change). I am disabled now and dont play at all but i had a spinal fusion and two rods put in my back when i was a teenager. My full swing with a driver was anout ewual to an average guys 9 iron turn. Everyone has one. [quote name='baseballfrk8998' timestamp='1364403832' post='6707431'] Learn to play your game, but keep pushing yourself where sensible and on the range, and youll enjoy your round more and start playing much more consistent golf. Smash Factor 1.475 The trend right now with wedge play for all manufacturers is lowering the ball flight on the full shots. I know his swing speed with driver is up around 120mph but thats all they seem to show on tv. For example, I could average over 300 yards per round during the summer with a driver. TrackMan Do you have Average Female Amature driver swing speed? The 56 to 62 grooves are wider and shallower for chipping and lob shots. 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IF a smaller easier course with less hazards I will play from blue but I am having a ton of fun and scoring between 90 and 97 consistently every time with an average drive of around 220 yards. I, and many amateur golfers I play with on a regular basis, have the ability to hit the ball a long way. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Ball Speed - 185 mph[/background][/size][/color] 14* SLDR // Speeder 8.3x I think those numbers are a little high. Jordan Spieth WITB 2022 (September) GolfWRX What about this awesome drive from Dustin Johnson in Hawaii that everyone was talking about: So the drive went 433 yards. [/quote] PGA, Executive Director, Golf House Kentucky | Kentucky Golf Foundation. Dont think they ever release that stuff. Whats the proportion of shots wide of the mark by say 80 feet or more (or some width for which there is data) 2. Many golfers save some money and buy the SM8s and others will upgrade from SM7s to SM9s. Ball Speed 176.38 These 23 heads are available in three finishes: Jet Black, Tour Chrome and Brushed Steel. I think this is very interesting but misleading. Short hitter compared to the average WRXer [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] Finally the bunker shot, this is where I feel Vokey really stand out and help my game. I can hit the ball a long ways, that doesn't make me full of bs. Odyssey Metal X Milled #1. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Average Distance - 302 yards[/background][/size][/color] Thankfully also the SM9s dont seem to be ripping the cover off your ball, but looking at the Trackman numbers the backspin was high which you'd expect from the milled grooves. There isnt anybody who wouldnt like to be able to hit the ball further. A former tour pro told me he hit a tree branch off the tee that knocked his ball down, and it affected his average for the whole year by 15 yards. When its hit well I have hit enough times in the 260-270 range so Im probably in that 95 mph swing speed range. Standard 60 lob wedges meanwhile carry 95 to 105 yards on average. My average driving distance is 240 but IF I can make a shot in the sweet spot (Stars Aligned after a long Prayer) I can go 290 to 300 measured on the golf course. How Far Do Pro Golfers Hit Each Club? A 2022 Guide DShawn Johnson #TeamTrackMan I know a 47 year old who played d1 golf hits nothing but trap draws hits 8 irons 190. Distance is only a big deal to those who don't have it The first chart, with the club speed distribution, is that only for hcp 14-15 golfers? Vokey inspect all wedges individually but do recommend you look to change wedges after 75 rounds in order to keep the spin rate at its optimum. Titleist fitting last summer at my home course. My spin dropped 500 rpm on average and my flight favoured the left side. I'll pass. Overall I cant fault these wedges for an elite player as we are aware of the slight differences of feel at strike, flight and contact with the ground. Cobra Radspeed 5W RDX Blue, Mizuno Pro Fli Hi 4i Tour AD DI PING i210 (4i-UW) DG X100 Justin Thomas and Excel Sports Management are not responsible for lost, stolen or damaged items. I hit the same. Can crush it further by trap drawing it really stepping on it. Flexibility, speed, and knowing how to transfer energy the most effi The false fronts, forced carries, and deep protecting bunkers are too difficult for the AMA to deal with. Well I certainly feel hood about how I played when i did. My experience suggests that this is true. This course setup for the AMA is assuming a perfectly optimal drive by the golfer so in theory 395 yards would be a maximum length for the AMA based on 50% GIR. Top 50 Player Breakdown, What Irons Do LPGA Players Use? If I slow it down some and shoot for 280-290, I hit more fairways. Yes, typically very short drivers of the ball are better iron players or wedge players. Of course, playing shorter courses seems very obvious if you want to improve performance. It is fun and I find that I usually am scoring better than I would say 90% of the guys I play with now, hitting on average longer than 90% and I realize that that is because shooting in the 90s means in golf you are better than most so above average which unless you played since a teenager and have no other life and want to play 4 to 5 days a week or more that is all you can ask for.